Lost, episode 2.11: The Hunting Party
Good episode, though I didn't like it as much as last week's Eko episode (probably because he's my new favorite character). Jack's character, while central to everything, is growing to be amongst my least favorite. I like Jack backstories, and trying to figure out why he is so stubborn and bossy. And I LOVE the suspense/scary type of episodes like this one was. Stuff that deals with the island's mysteries and "the Others". It took a while to develop, but it was worth it.
Random thoughts from tonight's episode:
Jack's dad being one-upped by Jack when foreigners Gabriel and her dad tells them they didn't come all this way for him (Jack's dad), but for Jack. No doubt this fed Jack's ego and thinking he can do anything.
The date on the foreign guy's XRays: November 16, 2005, just a few months ago. That punches a big hole in the timeline many try to keep (as in Jack still has to get divorced, rat out his dad, go to Australia, spend 50 days on the island, etc). Is that a case of people like us overanalyzing a simple oversight on the producers' part, or does it mean the island portion of the show is actually is taking place in the future, not present day like most assume?
Michael going crazy, knocking out Locke and forcing Jack into the gun closet. How's this for wild:
Jack: You gonna shoot me?
Mike: No, but I'll shoot the computer!
Pretty wild considering Michael was using the computer to "talk" to "Walt".
Say hello again to "the numbers". Locke set the combo on the gun closet to include 25, 29, 40.
Jack and his wife Sarah obviously not having a great relationship. Jack working all the time. Sarah telling him she was late, but the test showed negative. Jack wanting to talk about it, her not.
So the south end of the island is where the main camp is, North is a new area of the island, and East is where the tailees were.
Sawyer nickname of the week: Mr. Clean, in reference to Locke. "All you need is an earring and a mop". Also referred to Jack as "Daniel Boone" while he was obsessedly pressing on through the jungle.
Locke asking Sawyer why he "chose" that name (Sawyer). He goes on to confront him about the flight manifest and how it had him listed as JAMES FORD. Interesting that he chose NOW to confront him, seeing how he's obviously known that info for a long time.
Seven shots fired, but only 3 of Michael's shells found? Jack running wildly TOWARD the shots. For such an analytical guy, he sure has a death wish.
Interesting that Jack's dad (Christian) told him to be careful, obviously in reference to Gabriel temptation. Then Jack basically saying he's one to talk and then Christian replying that "it's okay for some people, but not for you".
Jack failing to save the foreign guy. Really beats himself up over it.
Gabriel and Jack kissing. Saw that coming. Actually, I thought they'd have a full-out affair (actually, maybe they did, we don't know for sure). Jack telling Sarah that Gabriel kissed him, and then trying to smooth over the relationship, promising a new start, working less, etc. Sarah then announcing she's leaving him, that her mom had come over to help her pack. Then the bombshell that she'd been having an affair. Wonder if we ever see WHO that is, and if there's an island connection?
The "Bearded Man". Same guy from the finale last season that took Walt. Wow, he creeps me out. Looks like a bad Burt Reynolds to me. Anyhow, he knows way too much, starting with everyone's names. That Walt is ok, "He's a veeerrry special boy." That Michael won't find us. Talks about people going through doors they shouldn't, etc. “This is Our island your only here because we’ve allowed you to live here." Jack calls a bluff on him, talking about the spy Ethan. Then we see Bearded man get tough and tons of torches light up all around them (I count at least 14). There's lots of "them". Sawyer getting shot. Again.
Funny Hurley/Charlie dialogue about women while looking through albums (we see "Geronimo Jackson"?) in the hatch. We confirm that Hurley does in fact have the hots for Libby. I still find that amusing/intriguing since he was in a mental institution and she is a clinical psychologist. Charlie wondering if Claire misses him yet ("dude, it's been like one day"). Sayid coming in and talking about the music being depressing. Wonder if he's going in the jungle after everyone, too?
We know at least one of the Other's names... Alex. The Bearded Man said "Bring her here, Alex" when telling them to bring out Kate. Could this be Danielle's (French woman) child Alex? That's a WW2-era looking pistol the Bearded Man holds to Kate's head, too.
Speaking of Kate, nice tension between her and Jack. Jack bossing her around telling her not to follow. Kate disobeying and then getting caught and jeopardizing everyone. Jack throwing the zinger at Sawyer about "I know, you love her". Kate running to Sawyer, not Jack. Jack giving her the cold shoulder, her being upset by it.
The Others just gained a nice little arsenal for their collection.
Why did Sawyer call the "bearded man" leader of the Others "Zeke"? As in "You and me, we're not through, Zeke". Was it yet another Sawyer nickname (perhaps for a hillbilly type of name?), or did he actually know him?
Sun telling Jin not to go after Michael, and Jin obeyed. Nice conversation between them later, too, on not liking being told what to do. Sun saying she's done felt that way the past four years. Plug that into the timeline.
Charlie again showing jealousy over Locke's friendship with Claire.
Interesting to see Vincent (dog) with Ana-Lucia. Talk about irony, since she killed Shannon.
Jack has a ton of pent up aggression.... asking Ana-Lucia how long it will take to train an army? Planning on taking on the Others, I take it?
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Synopsis of the preview for next week (episode 2x12: Fire + Water):
-Hurley asking Libby if he's knows her from somewhere. (did she work at the institution Hurley was in?)
-Charlie busting open a statue and putting a finger in the heroin
-Locke asking Charlie if he's using again.
-Charlie standing on the beach with Aaron in his arms, Hurley asking him why, Charlie doesn't know, Claire slaps Charlie.
-We see somebody lift Aaron out of the basket.
-Aaron in the basket is floating away in the ocean, Charlie disrobes and jumps in to get him
TVGuide.com summary:
Locke suspects that Charlie's back on drugs when Charlie's surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby, Aaron, is in danger. Meanwhile, Hurley's attracted to Libby, and Sawyer encourages him to act on it.
Random thoughts from tonight's episode:
Jack's dad being one-upped by Jack when foreigners Gabriel and her dad tells them they didn't come all this way for him (Jack's dad), but for Jack. No doubt this fed Jack's ego and thinking he can do anything.
The date on the foreign guy's XRays: November 16, 2005, just a few months ago. That punches a big hole in the timeline many try to keep (as in Jack still has to get divorced, rat out his dad, go to Australia, spend 50 days on the island, etc). Is that a case of people like us overanalyzing a simple oversight on the producers' part, or does it mean the island portion of the show is actually is taking place in the future, not present day like most assume? Michael going crazy, knocking out Locke and forcing Jack into the gun closet. How's this for wild:Jack: You gonna shoot me?
Mike: No, but I'll shoot the computer!
Pretty wild considering Michael was using the computer to "talk" to "Walt".
Say hello again to "the numbers". Locke set the combo on the gun closet to include 25, 29, 40.
Jack and his wife Sarah obviously not having a great relationship. Jack working all the time. Sarah telling him she was late, but the test showed negative. Jack wanting to talk about it, her not.
So the south end of the island is where the main camp is, North is a new area of the island, and East is where the tailees were.
Sawyer nickname of the week: Mr. Clean, in reference to Locke. "All you need is an earring and a mop". Also referred to Jack as "Daniel Boone" while he was obsessedly pressing on through the jungle.
Locke asking Sawyer why he "chose" that name (Sawyer). He goes on to confront him about the flight manifest and how it had him listed as JAMES FORD. Interesting that he chose NOW to confront him, seeing how he's obviously known that info for a long time.
Seven shots fired, but only 3 of Michael's shells found? Jack running wildly TOWARD the shots. For such an analytical guy, he sure has a death wish.
Interesting that Jack's dad (Christian) told him to be careful, obviously in reference to Gabriel temptation. Then Jack basically saying he's one to talk and then Christian replying that "it's okay for some people, but not for you".
Jack failing to save the foreign guy. Really beats himself up over it.
Gabriel and Jack kissing. Saw that coming. Actually, I thought they'd have a full-out affair (actually, maybe they did, we don't know for sure). Jack telling Sarah that Gabriel kissed him, and then trying to smooth over the relationship, promising a new start, working less, etc. Sarah then announcing she's leaving him, that her mom had come over to help her pack. Then the bombshell that she'd been having an affair. Wonder if we ever see WHO that is, and if there's an island connection?
The "Bearded Man". Same guy from the finale last season that took Walt. Wow, he creeps me out. Looks like a bad Burt Reynolds to me. Anyhow, he knows way too much, starting with everyone's names. That Walt is ok, "He's a veeerrry special boy." That Michael won't find us. Talks about people going through doors they shouldn't, etc. “This is Our island your only here because we’ve allowed you to live here." Jack calls a bluff on him, talking about the spy Ethan. Then we see Bearded man get tough and tons of torches light up all around them (I count at least 14). There's lots of "them". Sawyer getting shot. Again.Funny Hurley/Charlie dialogue about women while looking through albums (we see "Geronimo Jackson"?) in the hatch. We confirm that Hurley does in fact have the hots for Libby. I still find that amusing/intriguing since he was in a mental institution and she is a clinical psychologist. Charlie wondering if Claire misses him yet ("dude, it's been like one day"). Sayid coming in and talking about the music being depressing. Wonder if he's going in the jungle after everyone, too?
We know at least one of the Other's names... Alex. The Bearded Man said "Bring her here, Alex" when telling them to bring out Kate. Could this be Danielle's (French woman) child Alex? That's a WW2-era looking pistol the Bearded Man holds to Kate's head, too.Speaking of Kate, nice tension between her and Jack. Jack bossing her around telling her not to follow. Kate disobeying and then getting caught and jeopardizing everyone. Jack throwing the zinger at Sawyer about "I know, you love her". Kate running to Sawyer, not Jack. Jack giving her the cold shoulder, her being upset by it.
The Others just gained a nice little arsenal for their collection.
Why did Sawyer call the "bearded man" leader of the Others "Zeke"? As in "You and me, we're not through, Zeke". Was it yet another Sawyer nickname (perhaps for a hillbilly type of name?), or did he actually know him?
Sun telling Jin not to go after Michael, and Jin obeyed. Nice conversation between them later, too, on not liking being told what to do. Sun saying she's done felt that way the past four years. Plug that into the timeline.
Charlie again showing jealousy over Locke's friendship with Claire.
Interesting to see Vincent (dog) with Ana-Lucia. Talk about irony, since she killed Shannon.
Jack has a ton of pent up aggression.... asking Ana-Lucia how long it will take to train an army? Planning on taking on the Others, I take it?
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Synopsis of the preview for next week (episode 2x12: Fire + Water):
-Hurley asking Libby if he's knows her from somewhere. (did she work at the institution Hurley was in?)
-Charlie busting open a statue and putting a finger in the heroin
-Locke asking Charlie if he's using again.
-Charlie standing on the beach with Aaron in his arms, Hurley asking him why, Charlie doesn't know, Claire slaps Charlie.
-We see somebody lift Aaron out of the basket.
-Aaron in the basket is floating away in the ocean, Charlie disrobes and jumps in to get him
TVGuide.com summary:
Locke suspects that Charlie's back on drugs when Charlie's surreal dreams lead him to believe Claire's baby, Aaron, is in danger. Meanwhile, Hurley's attracted to Libby, and Sawyer encourages him to act on it.
posted by Slacker at 9:09 PM
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Started slow once again, but the producers always decide to toss in a big bang and tease regarding next weeks episode.
I am excited to see Jack yet again not being able to fix something, but trying with all his might. He drives me crazy sometimes with is orders and "God" complex.
I LOVE THE OTHERS! This has now become the most interesting part of the show since we don't get to see all the characters during each episode like last season. I can't wait for the huge battle that will be waged during the season finale (MY PREDICTION).
Finally, I was being to like the fact the Ana Lucia had now be shown in a few weeks, but they decided to stick her in the last few minutes ... I HATER HER CHARACTER, but if they train an Army ... I LOVE WAR!
LOST - S2E11 - The Hunting Party
Things I liked about the episode:
1. We finally see what happened between Sarah and Jack. I kept waiting for her to say who she was having an affair to see if it was someone on the island. But I guess that would have been too much and that Jack would have acted upon that earlier.
2. Great to see the Boat Captain again. He is just creepy, but hypnotic. How many Others are there? I loved it when he said "Bring her out, Alex". Gotta be Danielle's daughter. Speaking of which, will we ever see Danielle and Desmond again?
3. Sawyer calling Locke "Mr. Clean" was great. Interesting that Locke then asked him why he chose the name "Sawyer".
4. There was a Sayid sighting!!! I wanted to see more of him. Hopefully, he'll be more prominent in the next couple of episodes.
5. Jack wanting to build an army - presumably to attack the Others.
Things I didn't like about the episode:
1. Jack pushing people around - why is he mad at Kate? Sure, he heard Sawyer mumble that he loves her and Jack saw Kate cutting Sawyer's hair (I think) but Kate kissed YOU, pal.
2. Outside of finding out what happened to Sarah, the flashback was kinda boring.
3. Ana-Lucia cutting off a piece of fruit and throwing it IN THE SAND for the dog to eat. Come on, girl, we're trying to like you but you gotta be nice.
Thoughts, rumors and questions:
1. Interesting that Vincent, the dog, was interacting with Ana-Lucia. Why wouldn't Sayid be watching him, since Shannon was before.
2. If Jack wants to build an army, why wouldn't he go to Sayid - who actually was in an army. Will Sayid and Ana-Lucia work together to build the army? Still waiting for a confrontation between Sayid and Ana-Lucia - heck, an apology would be nice.
3. Help me with this I have this wrong, but we have heard the following languages on the show: English, French, Spanish, Nigerian, Latin (medical terminology) and Italian. Any others?
4. Cross-over with the Numbers: none that I counted. 3 shellcases, 4:30 in the morning, 7 shots, 7.5 hours of surgery, 14 torches, 25 (lock), 29 (lock), 40 (lock), 50 days on the island.
5. Cross-over with other people in flashback: none that I saw.
6. Did anyone catch the books behind the bed when Jack woke up in the Hatch?
7. Besides "Gerinomo Jackson", what other albums were Hurley and Charlie looking at?
8. I liked when Locke was asking Jack why we should be telling anyone what or what not to do. Very good point.
9. Whay is Jack still wearing the gun case key around his neck? Wouldn't he have put those guns into the locked gun cabinet / closet in the hatch?
10. Again, Kate is waffling between Jack and Sawyer. She runs to Sawyer after she is released but she keeps begging forgiveness from Jack.
The Others are my favorite part of the show. I am very interested to see what thier plan is for the kids. It creeps me out a little.
Some things to note about Jack's conversation with Zeke. First, the guy seems very certain that Michael will not find them. This implies to me that Michael was not talking to Walt on the computer. Locke comments that Michael was not headed back where the tailies (and therefore OTHERS) came from but seemed to know where he was going. THE OTHERS have sent Michael on a wild goose chase.
Also Ana Lucia killed two OTHERS, not one as she tells Jack. And why didn't Jack to to Sayid since he knows he was actually IN an army?
As for Zeke's group, I still believe that he only has 5 others besides him. What he did is a well-known military strategy; fake your opponent into thinking your number is more than what you have. In this case the fires are spaced out that one person could have two torches to light those spots, and remember, there were 5 others on that boat besides Zeke.
FROM ANOTHER BOARD (not my original idea)
A German luger is a WW2-era gun. The majority of the guns we've seen on this show have been hunting rifles, and soviet-made kalashnikovs... no standard US military weapons, except the old knife that Ana Lucia pointed out. Could be meaningless, but nothing seems to be meaningless on this show.
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